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Wiki Wednesday - it's not just about Wiki's?

[written on the way home, posted the next evening]

I'm on the train home from Wiki Wednesday in London and although it was a great evening and I enjoyed almost all of it, I'm a little annoyed about a couple of the presentation. I went along with the intention of demonstrating wiki functionality in Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 which as time was running short I think I did ok with in a 5 minute slot. There were other presentation from other Wiki software, and people who are using wikis in an enterprise type environment.

What annoyed me was some guy from something called SMBlive who first of all claimed SharePoint was expensive while I was presenting, and then later claimed it wasn't a collaboration platform.

The SMBLive person got up and did a sales pitch saying they'd used the SharePoint platform, but scrapped it all and built a new UI on it for small businesses to use free of charge. Fair enough that's possible, after all the SharePoint UI doesn't float everyones boat. But claiming that in it's current state it wasn't a collaborative platform is a bit of a joke. And as for the free part, it's free for 2 users, with a 10 mb limit. So basically you can host one file with it as lets face it a word or powerpoint document can easily be over 10 mb these days. As soon as you want more space you have to pay for it, and more than two users, you need to pay £7.50 a month for each of them. Rather than this SMBLive Product why not just use Office Live? Apparently BT are investing lots of money into these SMBLive products, but I have to ask myself when was the last time BT managed to do anything worth while for collaboration and small businesses.

The most annoying part of it all was that the guy from SMBLive left as soon as he'd done his pitch, so I couldn't even discuss with him the points he'd made about SharePoint. Next time I should just shout out while he's presenting perhaps?

The last presentation I saw was by Barry Shrier. He decided that on a night called Wiki Wednesday he'd present about his new service called The Good Club.com (I'm not going to give it any link love!). At that point I decided to leave. I'm really sorry to the people I'd missed as I'm sure there were still lots of great presentation, and the initial ones were great as well, but there's only so many sales pitches I can take when it's supposed to be a community type evening.

Thanks to Goodman Jones who hosted the evening, and David Terrar who organised it all.

posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:11 PM

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# re: Wiki Wednesday - it's not just about Wiki's? 2/22/2007 4:40 PM David Terrar

I was a bit non-plussed by some of the things Antonio from SMB Live said - like you I wished he had stayed around so we could challenge him, but he disappeared off with the guy from beprofessional.com. Barry's Good Club presentation was totally misplaced. There is a way he could have presented that would have involved us, but he took exactly the wrong approach for this audience.

There were some good sessions though. I'm just doing a bit of a write up that will go on the wiki page and my blog. Have you seen the photographs that are on Flickr and the wiki?

Thanks for showing us SharePoint.

# re: Wiki Wednesday - it's not just about Wiki's? 2/27/2007 2:01 PM Antonio Chagoury

Sorry for not being able to stay as long as we would have liked (but as I explained to you on my way out it was a short, jam-packed trip), but we enjoyed the opportunity and are eager to open a dialogue. Let's drill into the questions as soon as possible, but we're back in London quite a bit, and always open for some more face-to-face time. To address a few points specifically:

1. SharePoint is clearly a collaboration platform. No disagreement, and my apologies if that was interpreted. But as a platform, we believe SharePoint is more fit for the developer community than the IT-less and IT-constrained SMB market. We work to add value to that target user community both by exposing native SharePoint functionality and replacing it where appropriate.
2. On the comment about SharePoint being 'expensive', my intention was to convey that, for an IT-less SMB team, implementing and leveraging SharePoint can be expensive because of the fact that it requires outside/third party IT support.

Would love to answer any questions directly in a healthy discussion here.

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